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WSNS Channel 44 - Summit Series Game 8 (Commercial Break, 1972)

Here's something pretty darn rare - no idea how this was recorded or on what format (it was transferred from some other format onto Beta) it's a partial commercial break during the broadcast on WSNS TV-44 of Game 8 of the 1972 Summit Series. It was Canada at U.S.S.R. Includes:

Commercial: Iwan Ries & Co. Tobacco at 17 South Wabash Avenue (voiceover by Mal Wyman)

Commercial: National Supermarkets (voiceover by Lloyd Hanson)

World Championship Hockey slide (which comes back up after the game resumes in some kind of technical difficulty)

Here's the complete TV schedule from that day!

This aired on local Chicago TV on Thursday, September 28th 1972. (Game aired here from 9pm to Midnight)

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Just a correction: The first ever Canada Cup for hockey did not take place until 1976. (Later Canada Cups were held in 1981, 1984, 1987, and 1991, and since that point, the World Cup in 1996 and 2004.) This is from the 1972 Summit Series.
Comment posted by VintageCanada on Monday, July 20th 2009 at 11:59am.

Corrected, thanks. :-)
Comment posted by FuzzyMemories on Monday, July 20th 2009 at 12:08pm.

I used to smoke a pipe and bought my tobacco and other supplies at Iwan Ries for years.

Wonder what happened to National--there was one at Devon and Newgard for years, and one in Northfield at Happ Road near Willow in what has been renamed Canaille Square (probably has another name now). They sort of vanished not long after this commercial aired, a victim of too much competition from Jewel and Dominick's.

Comment posted by HUdson 3-2700 on Monday, July 20th 2009 at 12:52pm.

That was cool. Thanks Fuzzy.
Comment posted by 1980sfan on Tuesday, July 21st 2009 at 7:29am.



Fantastic clip Rick! You've done it again!! Found another gem! :)

Comment posted by MATSYLPOFF on Tuesday, July 21st 2009 at 11:26pm.

It's amazing, but this stuff keeps turning up little by little. :-)
Comment posted by FuzzyMemories on Tuesday, July 21st 2009 at 11:35pm.

Fuzz: If I am not mistaken, this is the oldest WSNS footage that you have so far?

As far as National foods, I think there was one on Armitage, which at last glance was a Butera (almost 30 years ago).


Comment posted by armitagenlowell on Wednesday, July 22nd 2009 at 3:45pm.

Yep, this is definitely the oldest. This one break is the only one that survived.
Comment posted by FuzzyMemories on Wednesday, July 22nd 2009 at 6:09pm.

National Supermarkets were on their last leg in Chicago when I was a kid,I remember them.I also remember the old Certi-saver commercials that used to run and the logo with the chubby butcher with a "Certified" seal across his front.
Comment posted by 69TH&STONY on Wednesday, July 22nd 2009 at 9:16pm.

What a find,Fuzzy!!!

Boy,Mal Wyman was "Mr. TV 44" in those days,not only his GM duties,but even did staff announcing even before TV 44 really picked it up when the White Sox arrived in '73.

National Supermarkets did survive after Chicago in the 70's and beyond,...in St. Louis,and operated there until the late 90's.Of course,National's legacy was marred after 1987 in St. Louis.Google it,and find out,I really don't want to explain it here,it's that bad.

Comment posted by SoxOnTV44 on Friday, July 24th 2009 at 8:13am.

It is really cool to see how those early '70s hockey uniforms look.
Comment posted by Loyal32fan on Friday, July 24th 2009 at 10:35am.

Incredible! Watching this I had to think how amazing the internet is, how fortunate we are to have computers- I don't know how long I (and tons of family and friends) wished that there was some way to see events, commercials and television programs like this- AND HERE IT IS! I can't get over the commercial for NATIONAL! I love the simplicity of a lot of those commercials; a slide and voiceover.

I'm going to follow SoxOnTV44's advice and look up NATIONAL'S history. I recall that most, if not all, of the NATIONAL stores in our area (Lake County) were absorbed by A&P. Problem: A&P was in it's last days in Illinois and it showed in how little attention was paid to the upkeep and service in those stores.

Anyway, I'm going to watch this clip again!

Comment posted by thecromiecircle on Monday, July 27th 2009 at 8:03pm.

My taste is no smoking at all. :P
Comment posted by CelesteK on Tuesday, August 11th 2009 at 2:06pm.

The voiceover on the National commercial sounds like Jack Taylor...

I used to smoke a pipe, and shopped at Iwan Ries all the time. By that time they were selling their tobacco in foil bags instead of cans.

Comment posted by HUdson 3-2700 on Monday, September 28th 2009 at 4:43pm.

Here's an article about National (a/k/a National Tea Co.): http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/2790.html

Sounds like they abandoned Chicago not long after this commercial aired.

Comment posted by HUdson 3-2700 on Monday, September 28th 2009 at 4:46pm.

Man, I absolutely remember a day when so many local commercials were voiceovers over slides. That disappeared by the 80s.
Comment posted by mobilene on Friday, September 28th 2012 at 5:57am.

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Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by HUdson 3-2700 on Saturday, October 18th, 2014 at 8:52pm CT

GalagaFleetCommander - Johnny Unitas used to wear his hair in a crewcut until about 1970, when he decided to let it grow out to where he could part it. A real square...


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by GalagaFleetCommander on Thursday, October 16th, 2014 at 9:23pm CT

Johnny Unitas did WHAT? I can't believe that! He's got that perfect haircut you can set a watch to like Abe Simpsons said! I wonder if he made anyone any significant amount of money.


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by ER3017 on Wednesday, October 15th, 2014 at 7:37am CT

About 2 years ago, my brother and I was on our way to the park and I saw boxes and boxes of videos, and my brother and I agreed to get almost all of them. Unfortunately, due to my strength, I didn't carry a lot, so I grabbed like 2 boxes and some videos are quite interesting I tell you. I'am still waiting to deliver these to you because if I wait, not only they'll rot but worried that these will be in the dumpster like my mom did but retrieved by me thank god.


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by FuzzyMemories on Tuesday, October 14th, 2014 at 12:48pm CT

davismv - Thanks Mark! Well, we do have some late-breaking developments - once again provided by our researcher extraordinaire, Mr. Chris Tufts (Phantom). He found this interesting article on the development of Teletext in the U.S. as well as it's use on Nite-Owl. It's from New Scientist magazine and dates to July 22nd 1982. After reading this one has to wonder - what happened? Everything seemed so rosy. They had lots of viewers, and were making some advertising money apparently. So why did Nite-Owl quit just about a month later at the end of August 1982? Were they just tired of "giving it away for free"?

In any case, Chris found another interesting article, this time from Broadcasting Magazine dated September 7th 1981. In it, we finally learn that the true start date of Nite-Owl was early Friday, September 4th at 12 Midnight! Therefore, we can say with certainty that the clip you see here is the opening of Nite-Owl's Second Episode! We'll have to adjust the airdates of a few other clips to reflect this new information.

(T.K. - the answer to your question regarding Nite-Owl's music is also in this article - although who knows, perhaps they changed music providers at some point during the run of the show)

One other thing - the article mentions that WFLD was actually including teletext pages over its regular broadcasts since April of 1981. I had never heard this before. This information just leaves me wanting more. Did they transmit the teletext pages over every program that aired on WFLD since April 1981? Secondly, if you have a recording of a WFLD broadcast from that time period and you are able to fashion some kind of decoder, can you see the original teletext pages that aired during the broadcast? According to this article, there were at least 100 decoders floating around the Chicagoland area. Did anyone save one?

davismv - Regarding your questions: this was recorded by someone who was a "serial taper" but who also apparently had a short attention span. His tapes are filled up with 4-6 hours of material per tape, and rarely are there complete programs, but instead have little "snippets" (no pun intended) of news, sports, commercials, and whatever else struck his fancy I guess. There are a lot of good "bits" but unfortunately almost each one makes you wish he stuck with the recording at least a little longer. (but then again, if he recorded longer segments we wouldn't have the variety that he captured, so it's a six-of-one situation)

Regarding finding tapes: more and more I believe that the best way to find tapes is by asking neighbors, friends, or acquaintances. Why? Because unfortunately these home recorded tapes are seen by most people as virtually worthless most of the time, and if something is viewed as worthless it has way less of a chance of even making it to a thrift store or garage sale. People would just throw them out (which is sad, I know).

Also, some thrift stores now have policies of not letting "home-recorded" tapes make it to the shelf at all - they will just toss or recycle them if donated. The reason I've heard for this is that either someone complained before about something they found on one of the tapes ("adult" content perhaps), or the thrift store people are just being proactive and trying to avoid any issues like this from happening in the first place. In any case, it does stink. One idea I had that you might want to do is call all of your local thrift stores in your area and ask them if they ever get any home-recorded tapes and what they do with them. (first hurdle is making sure they understand what you're talking about - I usually use the term home-recorded tapes and then make sure it's clear by saying I'm not talking about "store-bought" movie type tapes - but tapes that people recorded themselves at home off of TV) If they say that their policy is to just throw them away or recycle them, tell them to save them for you. Give them your name and number and tell them you will pay for them too if they are what you're looking for. Make sure you're talking to a manager or someone at the store that actually has the power to make this change. Also remind the manager to inform his workers so that they are aware of what to do with the tapes too. And lastly, it couldn't hurt to call the stores again every couple months or so, and talk to the same manager if possible, to double check they are still saving tapes for you and that they haven't lost your contact info. :-)

One last tip - when buying tapes I don't buy them based on what is on the labels. The stuff written on the labels can be a red herring. I go by the age of the tapes. If you've been doing this long enough you can identify a pre-1985 videotape just by the box style as well as certain markings on the videotape itself. The stuff written on the labels can be a nice clue, but again I don't hold much stock in it. There could be a Sony K-60 Betamax tape that could potentially date to 1975 and the person could have recorded over most of it and wrote "Jurassic Park 2" on the label - doesn't matter - because you may still find an untouched 10-20 minutes at the end of the tape of a 1978 airing of Baretta with original commercial breaks for all you know. Anyway, happy hunting and of course please let me know if you find anything good. :-)


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by Phantom on Monday, October 13th, 2014 at 6:41pm CT

An article in Broadcasting Magazine in February 1982 says Nite-Owl had as many as 110,000 viewers on some nights.


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by T.K. on Sunday, October 12th, 2014 at 10:04pm CT

It struck me how much Keyfax resembles the graphics of the Prodigy online service several years later. I guess I shouldn't be surprised because they both used the NAPLPS graphics language, which was originally developed for videotex and teletext use.

Now I'm curious how Nite-Owl's music feed originated. Usually the all-night news tickers run by stations in other cities simply carried audio from a sister radio station or the local National Weather Service broadcast. It sounds like Nite-Owl had a dedicated playlist. Did WFLD have a full-blown radio automation system with multiple carts and reels run off a clock, like something by Harris or IGM? Or did someone just dub everything together onto a new reel for each night's playback? Or did the overnight master-control operator sit there and play each song back from its own cart?


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by Detroit4Chicago on Thursday, October 9th, 2014 at 12:09pm CT

Kinda neat to see an early computer-based newsfax system up and running for a UHF Station in a big market about this time. I'm thinking WFLD was trying this out to see if it became successful, it would have been used within years at the other Field stations across the country. Another possibility was to compete locally against WGN, WBBM and possibly WSNS (with of course, ON-TV) in the wee hours of the morning.

But what's neater-than-neat? Watching the Empire State Building take off like a Saturn V rocket in Commodore 65 form!


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Son of Svengoolie - "Monster on the Campus" (Partial Mail Segment with Chicago Lions Showgirls, 1981) by HUdson 3-2700 on Tuesday, October 7th, 2014 at 2:57pm CT

http://chicagolions.com


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Son of Svengoolie - "Monster on the Campus" (Partial Mail Segment with Chicago Lions Showgirls, 1981) by GalagaFleetCommander on Tuesday, October 7th, 2014 at 11:57am CT

A Chicago team with Detroit Lion colors? That's awkward!


Comment posted in WFLD Channel 32 - Keyfax Nite-Owl Service - "Episode Two!" (Opening, 1981) by davismv on Tuesday, October 7th, 2014 at 10:39am CT

This is an incredible find, Rick. Could it be possible that this was Nite Owl's debut airing? Where did you get the tape from, and does that person happen to know why this was recorded? It appears that it was recorded for a specific reason as there are rainbow VHS wobbly vertical lines at the beginning of the recording, indicating that someone just hit the record button and it was seconds prior to when the ship takes off. I am at garage sales and thrift stores often and always look for home recorded VHS and beta tapes from the very early 1980's, hoping to find one with the words Nite Owl on it. Funny story though, I did recently purchase a tape that was labeled Three Stooges and was a very dated Quasar VHS tape. Turns out that it was a prerecorded dub from another tape... I was hoping it would end and that someone left the VCR recording back in 1982....


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