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WOR Channel 9 - News Update (Excerpt, 1979)

Here's one more quick bit I found from WOR Channel 9 in New York - a slide with an excerpt of a live news update. These people must have had an early cable system here that picked this up.

Voiceover by Ray Marland.

"Have a nice day if you can..."

This aired on Chicago TV (via Cable) likely in October of 1979.

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Ray Marlin (as apparently his spelling might've been, though the way he says it does sound a bit like "Marland") worked for THIS Channel 9 (as opposed to the one they dare not speak whose calls ;) ) on a freelance/part-time basis; other parts of the week, he also announced for WTNH Channel 8 in New Haven, CT. (I thought I heard his voice for a "College Bowl" type show promo/I.D. for that station in 1984.) His "Have a nice day if you can" was what amounted to a trademark closing catchphrase.

But WOR's announcing staff, at that time, consisted of such voices as Russ Dunbar (who usually handled the sign-on shift, up to after "Romper Room" and "Straight Talk" were on), Frank McCarthy (an original host of "Million Dollar Movie" in the early years from its start-up in 1954), Phil Tonken (who did many nationally-run TV and radio ad V/O's from the 1960's up to the early '80's), Ted Mallie (who, in the waning years of his career, announced for the children's show "Steampipe Alley" which was an early gig for its host Mario Cantone), and Jesse Elin Browne (the station's only full-time female staff announcer). Also working in the announcing booth at that time, on a relief / fill-in / sub-announcing basis, was Barbara Korsen who today is the announcer for ABC's "America This Morning." (Ironically, in 1990 Ms. Korsen replaced Bill Owen as the announcer for what was then "World News This Morning" - after which Mr. Owen, who'd been with ABC as an announcer since 1960, went to what is now WWOR-TV for the next few years). Prior to 1977, another announcer for the station was Bob Jordan (who died that year). After 1982 and for many years thereafter, it was just Messrs. Tonken and Mallie who then became the Voices of Channel 9.

Comment posted by W.B. on Friday, August 7th 2009 at 1:45am.

And WB I believe some in the WOR-TV announcing staff also served as announcers on WOR Radio 710 on the dial. I think Ted Mallie was among them.

Fuzzy/WB I wonder, was this segment done prior to WOR signing off for the night? I know in '79 or '80 WOR went 24 hours doing only a sign-on sequence at 5AM, including the following:

*Station slide and announcement

*INTV Slide (Association of Ind. TV Stations, which WFLD showed at their sign-off--which is here at Fuzzy Memories)

*A film about the pledge of allegiance (It NEVER Meant More [Amen I say] ). Followed by the Mormons version of our National Anthem, one of my all-time favorites, which the script called "A Salute to our nation."

*Two hands folded in prayer ("We pause now for a moment of prayer")

*Religious portion

*News update

Comment posted by BobAnthony on Friday, August 7th 2009 at 4:13am.

It was around the time of this aircheck that WOR-TV went 24/7.

But as to the announcers also doing radio: This was prior to summer 1968, when WOR-TV moved its studios, tape and film facilities, and master control to 1481 Broadway (previously, they had studios at 1440 Broadway where WOR Radio was based, and also at the Empire State Building [for news and public affairs specials] where their transmitter was then, and went back to after the 9/11/2001 attacks that brought down the World Trade Center). Tonken, Mallie, McCarthy and Dunbar, in fact, all dated back to the 1940's and also did announcing work on Mutual Radio shows during the OTR era. (For example, Mallie was the final announcer for "The Shadow" in its last two years - 1953 and '54 - on the air; one of his predecessors in that capacity was Sandy Becker who later gained fame as a children's show host on what was WABD when he started there, and became WNEW-TV a few years later, all the while on Channel 5 which is now Fox WNYW.)

Among those who handled sign-off duties pre-'79 were the aforementioned Mr. Jordan, Mr. Marlin, and Ms. Browne.

Comment posted by W.B. on Friday, August 7th 2009 at 9:52am.

W.B., I happened to stumble on this outtake of Sandy Becker.
He seemed like he was very funny.
This is one of the funniest things I had ever seen.

(WARNING: He drops an "F" bomb. So, ask mommy and daddy if you can watch this! ;) )

http://www.tvparty.com/g2e/sandycreme.ram


Comment posted by armitagenlowell on Friday, August 7th 2009 at 10:50am.

Much respect to NY's channel 9,but man I miss seeing our own in all of it's cool TV programming glory! A pitiful shame!! :-(
Comment posted by 69TH&STONY on Sunday, August 9th 2009 at 4:28am.

"Have a nice day if you can?"?

Is the sky falling? Is the world coming to an end? Why would an announcer say "Have a nice day if you can?"?

Comment posted by CelesteK on Tuesday, August 11th 2009 at 2:00pm.

And this was before SYNDEX, meaning that if you watched WOR(correction, WWOR) anytime from 1990 onward, some programs airing for people within the environs of NYC wouldn't be aired outside of a 75-mile radius. Nope. Instead, you got "WWOR, EMI Service." Just what the --- was THAT?!?!

If I'm watching an out-of-town station, I want to be exposed to what the people in that city's environs see. It's called, "do as the Romans do."

Comment posted by on Wednesday, August 12th 2009 at 7:59pm.

And this was before SYNDEX, meaning that if you watched WOR(correction, WWOR) anytime from 1990 onward, some programs airing for people within the environs of NYC wouldn't be aired outside of a 75-mile radius. Nope. Instead, you got "WWOR, EMI Service." Just what the --- was THAT?!?!

If I'm watching an out-of-town station, I want to be exposed to what the people in that city's environs see. It's called, "do as the Romans do."

From "BuffaloBound"

Comment posted by on Wednesday, August 12th 2009 at 8:00pm.

At least this channel 9 allows old footage to be viewed.
Comment posted by on Thursday, August 13th 2009 at 1:22am.

As does "that" Channel 9's sister station, WPIX Channel 11.
Comment posted by W.B. on Thursday, August 13th 2009 at 5:01pm.

Prior to 1968, when WOR-TV moved its studios, VT facilities, and telecine/master control to 1481 Broadway, all of their announcers did both radio and TV. After 1968, the announcing pool was split up so that Tonken, Mallie, Dunbar and McCarthy all did television only, while Fred Maness, Bruce Eliot, Dick Willard and Chris Cunningham worked exclusively on WOR Radio 710.

As for what their sign-offs looked like, they came after the late news and had:
- Station slide and announcement
- INTV slide
- A promo of WOR Radio's overnight schedule and morning "Rambling with Gambling" (with a circa 1970 slide of WOR Radio's then current logo, and John Gambling inside the "O")
- The two hands folded in prayer ("We now conclude our broadcast day with a Moment of Prayer.")
- The religious portion
- The Mormons SSB (I can't remember if the Pledge preceded same on sign-offs)
- Cut carrier (or in other words, snow)

Given Ray Marlin's announcing what's closed, I'm surmising this was Monday, October 8, 1979 - Columbus Day.

Comment posted by W.B. on Tuesday, April 13th 2010 at 12:09pm.

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